In this week’s installment of The Score, we hear your thoughts on Nintendo’s HD remakes.
In addition, we ask for your thoughts on Nintendo’s goal for Wii U sales. By the end of its 2013 fiscal year (ending March 2014), Nintendo hopes to sell 9 million Wii Us; while in its second quarter, only 300,000 Wii Us were sold. Nevertheless, Nintendo still kept its sales target. Was that goal realistic?
The Score: Episode 26
Is Nintendo’s Wii U Sales Goal Realistic?
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The Score: Should Nintendo Release More HD Remakes?
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Believe it or not, i was strictly a Sony guy back in the ps1 & 2 era, and before that i was just too young to play games.. that means that i couldn’t get to play & experience Nintendo classics like super metroid, majora’s mask, earthbound, etc, etc.. i’ve actually bought some of them on VC on my wii & 3ds, but couldn’t probably enjoy them because of the outdated graphics and the (some what) sluggish controls =/
A remake should fix that, i still remember how i pre-ordered my 3ds back , just to play OoT.. if i did it, other people will do it too with the WII U. WW HD is a proof of that.
YES! Lot’s Of ‘em
Because the games do not feel like remakes, they feel like brand new ones
As long it does not interfere with the development of main games, and as long if it’s not a LOT of them, I would love them.
And about the pricing: maybe a remake of a GCN/Wii game could be $50, but if, for example, the ReUmagined series is real and they decide to release them for retail as well, they should cost no more than $35
Possibly….BANJO-KAZOOIE ….I can dream
Yes, they should do more remakes.
For one very good reason;
Aside from most Indie developers, third party developers are screwing up 90% of their chances to make us WANT their games on the Wii U.
Ghosts and Black Ops don’t have DLC, Sniper Elite V2 didn’t have its multiplayer, Mass Effect 3 released at the same time as the collection on other consoles, and most recently, Human Revolution released with an unjustifiably larger price tag.
And that’s just the tip of the ice berg.
Point blank: AAA third parties cannot, CANNOT, be trusted to do games justice on the Wii U, as a majority rule.
In lieu of that, Nintendo should step up by releasing titles we can TRUST to be good games, even if they ARE remakes.
Why not? They should make remakes as long as it doesn’t flood the market and cripple production of new games. However, charging $50 is a bit over priced. It’s not a new game, and it didn’t take nearly the amount of money to remake it as it did to create the first time, so don’t charge as if all this work went into a remake. $30 is fair but $20 is ideal (especially if they are on the eShop).
NINTENDO should get off their LAZY backside make plenty of HD games starting with CONTRA, R-TYPE, GRADIUS, STREET OF RAGE
should they be priced at 50.00???? nope. 29.99 yes.
Im dieing to play a REAL solid Contra game again.
-Ol School Gamer
I think so with three stipulations;
1 – They are high quality like the WW HD remake
2 – Doesn’t interferer with development of new games
3 – They do my favorite games first
I think it would be a great idea given two things. First, make sure they have some added features and are more than a simple remaster. While Wind Waker did an ok job at this, I feel like more could’ve been done to add to it. Second, outsource development as to not interfere with games they’re making. Yes, the main teams should be looking over them and I think new features should be designed by the main team, but it would really halt the development of other games if the main team had to do all the graphics and what not.
metroid prime and galaxy would be fine
Only if it’s Xenoblade.
Nope nope nope nope nope. It would only further perpetuate the saying that all Nintendo does is rehashes. Doing more HD remakes would only justify that. Even worse, these are being sold at/near full price when you can get a much bulkier HD collection for the same price or even lower, like the MGS or GoW collection. Would you rather buy Wind Waker HD for $50 or buy the MGS collection which includes MGS 2, MGS 3, MGS Peace Walker, MG 1, and MG 2 for the same price (at least it was $50 at launch, now it’s less than $30). I’d rather them make NEW GAMES, or else the Wii U won’t get more third party games, the sales of the console will only peak at 20-30 million, and the Xbone and PS4 will demolish it in almost every single way. The people Nintendo needs to make the Wii U thrive don’t want one because either they see it as having 1) no games or 2) Games they’ve already played. This is not the time to go crazy with remakes when the Wii U is doing complete shit. “Oh but a Majora’s Mask/Super Mario 64/Metroid Prime/Star Fox/F-Zero HD remake would be so awesome I’d love to play it again!” No. Maybe once they get their footing back we can discuss another HD remake.
Tell me again, how well did the 3DS do with all of it’s remakes in it’s first year? Why, it must have done fantastic! Star Fox, Ocarina…oh wait. No. It was awful. When did the sales start coming in? When actual NEW GAMES CAME OUT, AKA Fire Emblem, MK7, 3D Land, etc. Why should anyone pick up a console that can only play games that are HD remakes of a game either the person already has, or can just easily obtain, let alone pay near full price for ONE 10 YEAR OLD GAME?
Yes as long as:
It doesn’t slow down the development of new projects
It isn’t Wii remakes (since Wii U is backward compatible)
it doesn’t brings us series that will be released on a near future (dont see a point on releasing a Mario Kart64 HD as a standalone game, a SSBM, etc)
Only if the HD is well made (like WWaker) or, if only the graphics where improved and with little effort, to put the game on the eShop at a fine price
So long as the development of such games don’t interfere with receiving the generation defining games I was guaranteed when I purchased the console, I welcome more HD remasters.
As for why HD remasters shouldn’t be the focus, while I’m loving Wind Waker HD, and I’m sure Nintendo could do well remastering other past games, I bought a next generation console for next-generation games, not so much for remasters of games from preceding gens.
Seriously though, the last thing Nintendo needs for their image is for all the best games on the Wii U to be remasters. I mean come on, that’s just cheating haha.
This can be seen as Nintendo’s fail safe plan, however, offering Mario 64 in 1080p with improved textures for those droughts we all would prefer not to have.
-Omar T. (Acesonnall)
Should there be more HD remakes? Sure! Should they be produced by first party Nintendo? Absolutely not!
I hate the idea of Nintendo putting some of their geniuses on remaking already created games when they could be creating new ones. So, what’s the solution? Send the games out to a third party to get HD-ified, then DON’T charge $50 for it (probably around $20-$30 depending on the game), and finally make it an eShop only release (so that people don’t complain that Nintendo only releases remakes).
Yes. As other commenters said… as long as it doesn’t disrupt development of new games. I’d rather buy a HD remake than a VC re-release. Could understand doing more Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games. Mario Kart, for example, should just have all previous tracks available in HD as DLC.
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Not sure if people are understanding Nintendo's goal correctly. It's not an additional 9 million but units sold on top of the current install base (which is nearly 4 million units). What it means is that Nintendo only has to sell over 5 million more which is not at all impossible given Nintendo's impressive 1st party and 3rd party lineup which leads to March 2014.
On average the Wii U is now selling at over 100 units per week, this will go higher as the holidays draw near and new titles become available. If Super Mario 3D world is successful, it can easily generate console sale of at least 2-3 million systems in Japan alone. Combined US and European sales could easily ramp up to an additional 2-3 million units as well by the end of March 2014.
Never under estimate Nintendo's potential to reach a much wider audience than its competitors. While everyone else seems to offer you are first person shooters, Nintendo gives you WW:HD, SM3D World, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, DK Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart, Bayonetta and Wii Sports Club. They also have a Skylanders value packed bundle that also comes with Nintendo land for $299.99
Yes, it is. With the release of the WW HD bundle and other pro-family bundles, combined with all the great games their releasing this fiscal year... I'd say that nine million is a conservative estimate.
It was more Realistic back around E3. Now, with only 460,000 Wii U sold during the first 6 months, I expect Wii U sells to come up a little short. 6 Million Wii U sold by March 31 seems more realistic.
Things to consider during the next 6 months:
- Games line-up. Most of the people that frequent this site, other Nintendo sites, and other Video Gaming sites are more in the know of which games are Releasing for the Wii U. The Average Consumer will just walk into their store of choice and have to go through the process of seeing the games available, seeing the price of the Consoles, and maybe talking with a few of the store customers about Features/Reliability of each Console if they go in Blind.
-Availability. Yes the HD twins (or PS4/XB1) will be Releasing in a few weeks. But if Sony/Microsoft undership Units to stores in certain areas then people may buy a Wii U just out of Convenience if a PS4/XB1 is unavailable. In Japan and other Countries Wii U will be the only Console available for purchase at retail.
-Reliability. It was back during E3 that something happened that made me sour a bit on the PS4. Sony representatives would NOT allow members of Gamespot and other Press members to go back and capture footage of the PS4 in action. With the additional Ram under the hood and not even sending PS4 kits even to members of the Video Gaming Press as we speak, it makes me wonder how cool the system runs and how long it'll be before reports of PS4 freezing and bricking will hit the internet. And a Report released just a few days ago saying the PS4 will feature Mandatory Game Installs for All games (with Knack being 37GB?!?!) and not being compatible to External Hard Drives.
-Bundles. Lots of different Wii U Bundles coming out in the next month and most people here know the different varieties, but did you Notice one thing. The New Super Mario/Luigi Bundle also includes a Demo disc of other games as well!!! (says so on the bottom of the circle sticker Announcing both games). I have NO idea what will be on that Disc but if Nintendo puts Demos of TW101, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, Sonic: Lost World, and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze on there and word gets out.
-Demos. I went to my Local Gamestop two days ago to pick up my copy of Sonic: Lost World and tried out the Kiosk at the front of the store. Playable Demos of The Wonderful 101 and Sonic: Lost World were included. Now if Super Mario 3D World is available to Demo in store before Thanksgiving at say Toys' R' Us...
-Nintendo Direct (January Edition). Now I'm assuming that Nintendo is going to wait until around January 22nd to give us their next ND so as to not overlook the Holiday Releases/give Developers more time to Refine/produce more games to Reveal. When it does come out and Konami, EA, Treasure, and Atlus Reveal New games for Wii U and Nintendo affirms Release Dates for Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, X, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, and Announces a new game or two of their own then the hype will be brought back up.
-3rd Parties. With every additional Million Wii U that are bought the concern of 3rd parties of Releasing Games on the Wii U should lessen. With 4 Million Wii U sold, 25 percent of the Install Base must buy their game in order for a Million to be sold and for their Profit Margin to be Solid. With 5 Million/ 20 percent. With 6 Million/ 16.666 percent. With 7 Million/ 14.285 percent. With 8 Million/ 12.5 percent. With 9 Million/ 11.1 percent and with 10 Million/ 10 percent.
Sorry for the wall of text but you asked my opinion.
Realistic? I'm going to have to say yes, but only under one condition that Nintendo is seemingly not attempting to meet right now. Combined with a stellar advertising campaign to raise awareness and correct misconceptions both about the Wii U and it's upcoming games and with, I think they could do it.
Nintendo, so far, seems to be pushing Wii Party U and Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Games, but this doesn't seem like enough.
@SEGAGIGA You and I know that but quite a few people doubt the big N... I've been gaming for my entire life (mostly on Nintendo consoles) and I can tell you unequivocally that doubting Nintendo is a losing proposition. Remember when the 3ds was flagging (like the wii u now), and Nintendo dropped Zelda (like they did for the wii u now) and a slew of other Nintendo hard hitters and it turned around. Technically speaking, if you consider the 3ds a console (and why not, look at what it's capable of), Nintendo already has the highest selling next gen console!